Comments on: Battling the Little Red Devil Inside http://unitedzone.info/blog/2007/11/19/27/ The Official Blog of United Zone Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:46:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: opm http://unitedzone.info/blog/2007/11/19/27/#comment-44 opm Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:31:57 +0000 http://www.unitedzone.info/blog/2007/11/19/27/#comment-44 Unfortunately you've missed the parallel between the two teams. I generally was making a comment about all teams through the lens of Old Trafford. While I was risking a backlash from fellow United fans, I found it more important to be harsher towards my own team than focus on presenting evidence from other clubs. The fact is, that all fan bases of successful clubs seem to fall prey to their own teams success as I mentioned and you highlighted. I don't think there is a contrast. As far as the prawn sandwiches, I see it as a ridiculous comment on Keanos part (which was said to try to catalyze our 2001 season and try to get it back on track), and has been used against the club all too often for my liking. In your comment specifically, you use it as some sort of gauge to measure one fan bases support against another. Since that is nearly impossible, although many have tried, it would be reasonable to say we're just having a pissing contest. Personally, i'd like to focus on the problem as a whole, than get into comparing clubs. As far as Torres passing Neville: 1) You're having a laugh clearly. 2) He'd have to get his ass off the injury list first Unfortunately you’ve missed the parallel between the two teams. I generally was making a comment about all teams through the lens of Old Trafford. While I was risking a backlash from fellow United fans, I found it more important to be harsher towards my own team than focus on presenting evidence from other clubs. The fact is, that all fan bases of successful clubs seem to fall prey to their own teams success as I mentioned and you highlighted. I don’t think there is a contrast. As far as the prawn sandwiches, I see it as a ridiculous comment on Keanos part (which was said to try to catalyze our 2001 season and try to get it back on track), and has been used against the club all too often for my liking. In your comment specifically, you use it as some sort of gauge to measure one fan bases support against another. Since that is nearly impossible, although many have tried, it would be reasonable to say we’re just having a pissing contest. Personally, i’d like to focus on the problem as a whole, than get into comparing clubs.

As far as Torres passing Neville:
1) You’re having a laugh clearly.
2) He’d have to get his ass off the injury list first

]]> By: Tettehsrafalution http://unitedzone.info/blog/2007/11/19/27/#comment-34 Tettehsrafalution Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:41:10 +0000 http://www.unitedzone.info/blog/2007/11/19/27/#comment-34 You are definitely right. Funnily enough it seems as though Liverpool are suffering from the exact opposite phenomenon. In big matches, or when our backs are against the wall, the fans come through and the atmosphere is second to none. But against smaller teams where we are expected to win comfortably (like against that notorious draw with Birmingham at home), the atmosphere was appalling. The only explanation for the shocking lack of crowd participation at anfield on occasion that I can think of is that, as opposed to being used to seeing our team winning with ease week-after-winning-week, our fans are nervous that a defender will lose concentration and slice the ball into his own net, or that Kuyt will miss many a chance and we'll see a late equaliser spurn our good work. It's a whole different story when we have to get a result - then the fans remember their position as the 12th man, and suddenly find the reason why the atmosphere at anfield is praised by all who have played there, ex-players and foe alike. Fortunately the atmosphere at anfield hasn't gotten to the prawn sandwich levels Keano ranted about. Often it takes a mini-crisis or catastrophe to unite and heat up the fan base, and so the shock of Rafa's very public tiff with our American owners might have been just the shock that Liverpool fans needed to wake ourselves out of our slumber and get back to our vociferous ways. One thing is certain - on December 16th, Anfield will be a cauldron of noise, and the only prawn sandwiches in site will be ones Gary Neville excretes when Torres races past him to score the winner! You are definitely right.
Funnily enough it seems as though Liverpool are suffering from the exact opposite phenomenon. In big matches, or when our backs are against the wall, the fans come through and the atmosphere is second to none.
But against smaller teams where we are expected to win comfortably (like against that notorious draw with Birmingham at home), the atmosphere was appalling. The only explanation for the shocking lack of crowd participation at anfield on occasion that I can think of is that, as opposed to being used to seeing our team winning with ease week-after-winning-week, our fans are nervous that a defender will lose concentration and slice the ball into his own net, or that Kuyt will miss many a chance and we’ll see a late equaliser spurn our good work.

It’s a whole different story when we have to get a result - then the fans remember their position as the 12th man, and suddenly find the reason why the atmosphere at anfield is praised by all who have played there, ex-players and foe alike.

Fortunately the atmosphere at anfield hasn’t gotten to the prawn sandwich levels Keano ranted about. Often it takes a mini-crisis or catastrophe to unite and heat up the fan base, and so the shock of Rafa’s very public tiff with our American owners might have been just the shock that Liverpool fans needed to wake ourselves out of our slumber and get back to our vociferous ways.

One thing is certain - on December 16th, Anfield will be a cauldron of noise, and the only prawn sandwiches in site will be ones Gary Neville excretes when Torres races past him to score the winner!

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