[Dirtycheat]

england really didnt play like men, perhaps beckham needed to play earlier

gerrard was poo, lampard was his usual self. neither of the pair seemed to take defensive duties, massive gaps between the midfield and defence and at times there was no midfield altogether, just long balls which never fell to anyone.

cambell was woried about his crown jewells so the last one went in, had turned away instead of turning into the ball to block it. not really his fault though, it was eveyone in that area for not diving in like john terry or vidic.

carson was my MOM for me even though he made a massive mistake, because he didnt let his head go down and faught like a man. also no suprise that once becks went on things started going well, i thought neither gerrard or cambell took the lead tonight, england played with no captain until becks came on.

not the worst considering rooney, owen, hargreaves, heskey, cole, terry, rio and neville are out. but it wasnt lack of quality that lost this, it was lack of heart, determination and grit when things go badly.

the difference between scotland and england is that england have the better team, scotland have the better spirit and organisation.

pathetic really, might be a good kick up the back side.

oh, and i dont think mclaren should go. i hated his appointment, but i think england have improved under him. if it takes a club manager 2 years to imprint his style on a club, it should take the national team manager at least that if not more. england didnt lose because of mclaren, but because of complacency and taking things for granted.

i blame the players, not the manager.

imo its more of a risk playing robinson, the guy is on mission to out do calamity james. remember what happened last time england played croatia?