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Originally Posted by GocartMozart
To your first point, I didn't say I believed United are buying the league, and when I said we've spent money like never before, that's true. With Tevez this will be a summer transfer record.
To your second point, just because you fill a need, doesn't mean you aren't buying the league.
Finally to your constant inclusion of Richardson as an example, really we both know better. What you've done there is take your bitterness over Richardson and weave it against my points, placing me on a polar opposite of whatever theories you're putting together. I'm having it both ways? The concept that I'm being hypocritical by slagging Richardson and at the same time complaining that we don't give our youth enough time is a bit rediculous. The two are mutually exclusive. Johny Evans comes in for 10 minutes against Everton and not only does he score, but he looks competent which is the key. That's the difference and it has nothing to do with hypocracy. Richardson has been given enough chance to at least show something/anything and still failed. While, I see very few other players from the academy making it to the bench. My belief that our youth system isn't getting enough top level exposure, and my distaste for Richardson are mutually exclusive and at the very least anything but hypocritical.
Back to my point and away from the Richardson digression - in fact, if the youth system isn't producing, shouldn't the money go towards it, rather than Nani or Tevez? As far as whether it is bearing fruit, I'll point to Johny Evans as a perfect example.
Finally, we are on the same page as far as the debts incurred by the Glazers and that was one of the first things I thought about when I started thinking about these transfers. What's the opportunity cost of buying these players, both in the form of our youth ranks and our debts...
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final rebuttal to you... maybe we should just start a debate thread...
k, until final numbers are actually revealed, we really don't know what was spent for Nani or Anderson. The transfers are undisclosed. I would like to think that there is a set fee and then monies paid out on appearances, league finish, cup competition trophies, like Carrick's deal was structured.
As for Tevez, I think fan posted up that it's a loan deal for 6 million over 2 years and then a balloon payment afterwards to keep him. Nothing wrong with that bit of business financially. Quite smart and keeps total summer spending this year down.
To your second point, if this your train of thought... then it is fair to say that all teams worldwide are buying themselves the chance to win the league...
I like Richardson's game. Always have. The fact that I brought him up had nothing to do with whether you like him or not (First time bringing him up in here
). Find it funny that you would attack Richardson for his "many" chances on the first team and big up Evans, who in a whopping 10 mins is worthy of first team opportunities.
The point is
players that are worthy of first team opportunities from the United youth academy are slim... and I'm talking about players that went through the whole system.
It's true for all clubs.
United were extremely fortunate in '92 to have so many players make it to the first team. It is rare and I really doubt we will ever see something like that again.
Management assesses whether a player through the academy has the quality to hold a spot on the first team vs. whether a player from elsewhere has that quality. United management felt the latter was true. Cue Anderson and Nani.
It's the English approach to football unfortunately in these times. There business model just doesn't include bringing up local talent. 442 Magazine has an article on youth development in July '07 issue. Here's what they say about England:
It seems that English clubs are unable or unwilling to put their efforts into developing homegrown talent, and instead adopt the role of football imperialists, determined to assert their influence around the globe.
When the homegrown rule is changed in '08, there might be more academy product in the first team. But expect more transfer movement in England.
United's team has a healthy balance between young and old. in about 2-4, the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Ole, Neville, VDS will be gone. Who's not to say that a player from the academy isn't given a chance then?
I really think the problem most of us seem to grasp is how these transfers are going to affect United's buying in the future. Do you really think that United will spend anytime soon? It's not happening. We have depth in defense, midfield and to a certain extent, forward position. The money for these transfers would be no different than if it was spent over 2-3 years. SAF stated that he wanted to build for the future with youth and has set his team up so that it can produce for years to come. Buying the league? no...
P.S. Again, I still worry about the debt. United better not be foolish enough next season of even thinking of buying too much. It's not needed. The next priority is getting rid of the debt asap.