Silvestre eyes return - Page 2

**funkdoctorspock** · 03-19-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RobsonLegend

I've seen/known of professional players who, after reaching a certain point in their career where they might otherwise be a step behind in other areas of the pitch where they previously played, elect to convert to a defensive role.

Ferdinand has played 38 matches so far this season. Vidic and Evra 37. Brown 35 with 3 sub appearances. O'Shea 15 with 15 sub appearances. Pique 6 with 3 sub appearances. Simpson 4 and 4.

Look, all due respect to the pace of the match and the toll it takes on players physically, but we're talking about professionals here. Players in their physical primes and blessed with the benefit of millions of dollars in equipment and technology and personnel to help them stay in match-fit condition.

It's not as if we're talking about an 80-match season.

And on topic, while the return of Silvestre may in fact add depth, that's about the only plus I can see from him. I don't care how many times he's scored against Liverpool--he's been a defensive liability and I hold my breath out of fear far more than out of anticipation whenever play approaches him.

As mentioned by you, but diminished in importance which I would like to highlight and emphasize. The speed of the game, the increased strength of the players and the longer schedules teams face when they play in Europe, along with there domestic cup commitments does add up to fatigue. Try telling Carlos Tevez that he shouldn't be tired. Or players that have commitments that require them to play year round. At the end of the day, players are humans, not machines. They do get tired and at some point they need matches to rest and recuperate.

Patrice Evra will need matches to rest. As will some members of the backline. To this end, I'm a lil disappointed that Pique and Simpson weren't given more matches to play a month or two ago. The Carling Cup shouldn't be the only competition for youngsters to get a chance to shine.

Bottom line is this. Tweety may not be the best player in the squad, but he does have usefullness to the squad. Which he probably will have to show asap.

DC, I do agree with you though. I wouldn't be crying if he did pisss off to Lyon or Marseilles. His loyalty has to count for something, right?

**RobsonLegend** · 03-19-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by funkdoctorspock

As mentioned by you, but diminished in importance which I would like to highlight and emphasize. The speed of the game, the increased strength of the players and the longer schedules teams face when they play in Europe, along with there domestic cup commitments does add up to fatigue. Try telling Carlos Tevez that he shouldn't be tired. Or players that have commitments that require them to play year round. At the end of the day, players are humans, not machines. They do get tired and at some point they need matches to rest and recuperate.

That's what the summer is for. End of the day, they're professionals. They're getting paid to do what they're doing. And they don't even have to do it at full speed but twice a week.

I get a salary. There are days where I feel tired as well. I don't get to work less hours because I need some rest. I put in the same hours every day 5 days a week. Sure, it's not as physically strenuous, but these guys were aware of it when they stepped into it.

**GocartMozart** · 03-19-2008, 05:03 PM

a tired tevez is still better than saha....unfortunately. The point is quality of performances and if a tired player can still put in the performance at an acceptable level than so be it. You do risk a higher probability of injury, but saha does that just by pouring milk into his cereal bowl every morning.

jamesbevis2 · 03-20-2008, 11:34 PM

Certainly a timely return although it may take a handful of matches to get some match fitness.

Busby Boy · 03-27-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas "Subpoena" Awaketh

Here's hoping he stays away from the first team for as long as possible.

Bloody hell, some United fans have short memories!

Slivestre was the best thing since sliced bread when he scored twice against Liverpool in the Premiership at Old Trafford a couple of years ago..

...he's scored 10 goals for United, not a half bad total for a defender, i bet you weren't complaining then...

Look Silvestre has had his ups and downs at United, but don't be so quick to dismiss him....

Nani17 · 03-27-2008, 11:37 PM

its hard for him to take a place i the line-up !
and even the bench ! We hade a strong bench so it will be hard for him!

Busby Boy · 03-27-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nani17

its hard for him to take a place i the line-up !
and even the bench ! We hade a strong bench so it will be hard for him!

Of course, nobody's disputing that.

I think that Silvestre, somewhat similarly to Gary Neville, may have to wait until next season to get back in the squad.

**GocartMozart** · 03-28-2008, 03:50 AM

that's a major issue. neither of them (and gary said this yesterday) that they are not nearly fit enough to come into the side. I don't trust either of them at this point in the season to come in and be flawless. With two trophies at stake can any of us say thte a fully match fit wes brown is worse than a rusty gary neville? The same goes for Silvestre and especially with his injury there is no reason to rush him back. Considering he didn't think he'd be back this early, we'll just have them wait for August.